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A death toll of 38 would certainly merit front page news were it to have been in Europe or the US.... A little less 1st world centrism would be appreciated. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 15:58, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

The story has been nominated, but the article is far too short for the moment. To be encyclopedic, the article needs to give some background information that the reader would not find in usual news sources: at the moment, the article only gives the exact same information that readers could find from internet news services. With the article in it's current state, the story will not be posted, as that would be pointless: why waste main page space say exactly the same things that people could find elsewhere. Physchim62 (talk) 16:13, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I understand why the Peruvian item isn't currently eligible, but out of curiosity about your explanation... the 2010 Madeira floods and mudslides article uses only online sources. It's quite informative, but wouldn't seem to pass the above criterium. What gives? Aylad 16:27, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Good question! But the Madeira floods article uses many different sources: you couldn't find the same information in any one of those sources. We also have the possibility of quickly linking to the people or authorities involved, to explain (for example) what is the role of the Madeiran government and the what is the role of the national government. For me, those are the differences with the Peru bus crash, and that is my meaning when I say that, for Peru, we can only repeat what news sources are telling us. Physchim62 (talk) 16:41, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks. :) Aylad 16:48, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

"To be encyclopedic, the article needs to give some background information that the reader would not find in usual news sources..." Really? Then at least half of WP's articles are not encyclopedic and ought to be deleted per WP:NOT. <sigh> Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:03, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

...until you put that quote in context and realize that A. it was referring to encyclopedic articles nominated for ITN and B. a scarcity of information within an article is grounds for immediate expansion, not immediate deletion. Cheers! Aylad 18:45, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I think that this page should have more daily articles on modern yet barely known items. --antapanta45^{did you knowl?}_{I have 17 accounts?} —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.197.72.60 (talk) 18:47, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

There are many prestigious film festivals where a lot of good films win. Why the bias to this Turkish movie's win? Wikipedia does end up having weird items in its "In the News" section but this is the most bizarre one I have seen in a long time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katochnr (talk • contribs) 20:04, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

It's not about the importance so much as the article itself, being up-to-date and informative. Also, this is the first time a Turkish film has won in since the 60s. And that's a long time. :)  f o x  (formerly garden) 20:07, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

It's only the "largest publicly-attended film festival" in the world... - Dumelow (talk) 01:16, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Please see WP:ITNR. almost all items in there have been thoroughly discussed already. This is an ITNR event -- Ashish-g55 03:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

It's not ewven big enough news in Turkey so... –Howard the Duck 05:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

it's major news. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.70.108.139 (talk) 14:47, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe some people might think it's too Euro-centric!!! Denisarona (talk) 15:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, there's very little actual information in the article, that is why the particular article could not be featured at the moment. In general – and this partly explains the state of the article – very little has actually happened in this so-called "sovereign debt crisis". There is a proposal open for discussion at the moment on WP:ITN/C to feature today's general strike in Greece, if anyone wants to give their opinions. Physchim62 (talk) 15:16, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

`nuff said...Paradise coyote (talk) 03:50, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

FYI, it's not worldwide Black history month, BTW. It's February in the US and Canada; in the UK it's held every October. 86.147.162.38 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:09, 16 February 2010 (UTC).

Just look at it this way: in honor of black history, you get 3/5 of a month! 206.74.5.136 (talk) 15:37, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

When's white history month or asian history month? 86.145.110.112 (talk) 16:50, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I declare March as Worldwide Freckle Month! If Wikipedia doesn't front-page some on topic freckle-centric content for all of March, I will be gravely disappointed. 69.249.239.113 (talk) 17:28, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Ummm, POTD for February 1 was George Washington Carver, y'know. howcheng {chat} 17:43, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

The UK has a black history month? How damn ridiculous! I guess Europe really is finished... Anyway, I'm not american, I'm not even from the american continent nor from an english-speaking country, and I don't think the english wikipedia is too anglo-centric. But even if it were it would be normal, because the english-speaking wikipedia is logically aimed at people who's mother tongue is english and who's culture belongs to what we call the "native english-speaking world". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Munin75 (talk • contribs) 20:20, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

The latter assertation is questionable. English is a very common second or foreign language and lingua franca. That combined with the size of the English wikipedia means it's of great and natural interest even to people who don't speak English natively. Nor does any policy give preference to native speakers. Nil Einne (talk) 15:09, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

BTW, to answer an earlier question....May is Asian Pacific American (APA) Heritage Month—a celebration of Asians and Pacific Islanders in the United States.Rhodesisland (talk) 01:51, 17 February 2010 (UTC)202.151.72.129 (talk) 01:50, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, that half answers the question... ;) Kafziel ^{Complaint Department} 01:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Better than not answering the question at all, now we just need a white history month. 86.145.110.112 (talk) 10:51, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

The other months that don't have _____ history month is White history month. –Howard the Duck 11:40, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Seems a bit unfair to have more white history months then any other 86.145.110.112 (talk) 15:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Simplest solution - WP creates its own (region/sub-region) months - to cover topics within the field (historical/political, natural history, geography etc), so more fields can be catered for - and those not directly involved can discover 'things they did not know they wished to know.' Jackiespeel (talk) 15:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

An even simpler solution: We shouldn't be ignoring any part of history during any month. We have less material on African history and Black history outside of Africa for a number of reasons, many of which could be fixed by writing missing articles - but the fact that we do have less material on that topic means that we could only achieve topicality by excluding other material to make the material we have more prominent. That is not the correct answer. — Gavia immer (talk) 16:14, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Black history month? When was the USA moved to the centre of the Wikipedia universe? For that matter, since when were contributions to Wikipedia obliged to be politically correct, (read: the African-American race deserves preferential treatment, over and above that given to all other races)? BlueRobe 08:13, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm sort of pink with some brown and a lot of hairy bits. My kids are much the same, especially if they wash. We are completely ignored by "historians". Can we have a pink with brown and hairy bits month in March? Michael of Lucan (talk) 22:36, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, dear, I am making light of a serious subject. To make a point. Instead of whingeing about lack of focus on black history, why not write a few more articles in Wikipedia which focus on the subject? Don't whinge about the dirty floor, if you don't have a broom in your hand. Michael of Lucan (talk) 23:05, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Talking of spelling (see Euro-centric, below), surely the correct spelling of whingeing (above) is WHINGING??Denisarona (talk) 18:15, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

No. Whinge has a soft G, so it produces WHINGEING not whinging. In the same way, singe produces singeing, not singing. You need the E to make reading easier, to remind the reader that the G is soft, and that words do not rhyme with "ringing". Michael of Lucan (talk) 10:47, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, Michael of Lucan. This is now another rule that they taught us flying out the window. Denisarona (talk) 17:58, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I believe the correct spelling is "whinging". That said, I also believe that spelling isn't worth arguing about when the word is mere slang. BlueRobe 08:13, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Dictionaries state that both spellings are acceptable, so I stand corrected. My point was that adding the E makes reading easier, and that point still makes sense. BlueRobe - The word "whinge" is not slang. It has been part of English (but possibly not USAian) since at least the twelfth century. Michael of Lucan (talk) 11:32, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

There is room for discussion regarding the issue of when a colloquialism ceases to become "mere slang" and evolves into a formal element of the English language. A great deal of Shakespeare's "genius" stems from his poetic usage of the innuendo-filled slang of the day, (which is something that contemporary literary prudes seem desperately eager to forget). When did Shakespearean slang evolve into formally recognised English? While the word "whinge" is centuries old, its popular usage has been largely confined to Australia and New Zealand (I'm a New Zealander) in the the 20th century (earlier?). Few Americans will recognise the word "whinge". However, those in the United Kingdom have embraced the term in recent decades. The word "pom" is a very popular colloquialism within Australia and New Zealand and has been for many years, (it is a label for the English or British, and usually carries a mildly derogatory sense). When will the colloquialism of "pom" cease to be mere slang? I don't think the answer is as clear-cut as you seem to insist. BlueRobe 13:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

BlueRobe - The popular usage of WHINGE has NOT been confined to Australia and New Zealand. It's also widespread in Ireland. Denisarona (talk) 13:58, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I think you'll find us poms have been whingeing about spelling for hundreds of years. Anyway, back on topic, we feature content that we have, usually in no particular order, trying to give no extra weight to any kind of article. OrangeDog (τ • ε) 23:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't the bottom section now state that the German Wikipedia has over 1 million articles and not leave it in the "over 500,000" category? (France isn't far behind.) Ecphora (talk) 05:16, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

This has come up before - the reason was that there's not enough wikis to create a separate "over one million" category. hbdragon88 (talk) 06:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Seems to me it's a significant milestone that should not be lost in the crowd. I don't see why there needs to be a "group" within each category. Ecphora (talk) 15:01, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Well, the categories aren't just there to give kudos, they're supposed to be organizational. APL (talk) 17:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I mean to say, why are we wasting time on this unimportant issue, when the Irish language Vicípéid has finally reached the 10,000 article group? The importance of that speaks for itself ... obviously. Gaeilge abú! Michael of Lucan (talk) 20:46, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what APL means by "organizational", but the current situation is simply misleading; most people would assume that German Wikipedia has more than 500,000 but less than 1 million articles. Ecphora (talk) 12:12, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

To be frank, does anyone care? It's not to advertise their size, it's to show they exist.  f o x  (formerly garden) 13:00, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Where do you get the idea that the point of this table is just to show that other Wikis exist, but not their sizes? It plainly is to show both what exists and their relative sizes. A "who cares?" argument does not deserve a reply. Ecphora (talk) 13:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I suspect that any flippantness stems from the fact that you're attempting to rehash a discussion that has occurred many, many times (including last week). In every instance (dating back to discussions of adding a "more than 500,000 articles" tier when only the German Wikipedia qualified), consensus has been that we should not have a tier for one Wikipedia (or even three or four Wikipedias).

Yes, the Wikipedias are organized by size, and the German Wikipedia is grouped with the largest. Until the end of December (when the German Wikipedia reached 1,000,000 articles), the highest tier was "more than 250,000 articles." Only then (with eight Wikipedias exceeding 500,000 articles) did we arrive at consensus to include a "more than 500,000 articles" tier. —David Levy 14:04, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, David Levy, for a responsible reply which explains the situation. But I hardly think I was particularly "flippant"; I didn't start the "who cares" or "unimportant issue" silliness.Ecphora (talk) 14:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I was referring to the responses that you received (and your perception thereof), not to the messages that you posted. —David Levy 15:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm sure this is a perennial point, but isn't this list right down at the bottom of the page just redundant to the interwiki links at the side? I notice that a Wikipedia doesn't get an interwiki link unless it is on the list... More serious is the omission of several Wikipedias in the lowest grouping, such as Hindi and Telegu... Physchim62 (talk) 14:22, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

1. There has been a small amount of discussion regarding the section's possible removal, but no such consensus has been reached.

2. Quoth Template:Wikipedialang/doc, "this is not a complete list of Wikipedias containing 40,000 or more articles; Wikipedias below a depth of 5 and those manually determined to consist primarily of stubs and placeholders are omitted." —David Levy 15:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

From meta:List of Wikipedias, Hindi has a "depth" of 17 and Telugu a "depth" of six. A quick skin through %E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%B0%E0%B0%A4%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%AF%E0%B1%87%E0%B0%95:%E0%B0%AF%E0%B0%BE%E0%B0%A6%E0%B1%83%E0%B0%9A%E0%B1%8D%E0%B0%9A%E0%B0%BF%E0%B0%95%E0%B0%AA%E0%B1%87%E0%B0%9C%E0%B1%80 (Telugu "Random Page") hardly suggests that the Wikipedia is composed "primarily of stubs and placeholders". I too am tempted to say "who cares", but as inclusion in the template is necessary for a direct interwiki link, perhaps we should consider adding a couple of Indian languages to the mix when they seem to fulfill the criterai (clearly fulfill the criteria in the case of Hindi!). Physchim62 (talk) 15:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

The widespread use of multiple bots performing minor (and sometimes arguably bad) edits has rendered the "depth" criterion essentially irrelevant.

I just loaded 50 random articles (the de facto standard test established at Template talk:Wikipedialang) at the Telugu and Hindi Wikipedias. Coincidentally, this yielded 46 stubs/placeholders at both. At the Telugu Wikipedia, most consist of one line of text or no content apart from templates. At the Hindi Wikipedia, in addition to pages containing one line of text or no content apart from templates, many pages (mostly geographical articles such as this one) contain one line of text accompanied by templates and headings for empty sections. —David Levy 17:37, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Russian (ru:) wikipedia is now "more than 500,000 articles" IlyaMart (talk) 14:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Put it in the proper category now, please77.51.152.176 (talk) 15:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Done. —David Levy 15:16, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Why not just the first player to score a double hundred in limited overs? Has a female cricketer achieved this feat? --59.182.54.6 (talk) 17:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Belinda Clark of Australia in 1997. Physchim62 (talk) 17:38, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

This is a question not just for the main page, but all the articles too: is it possible to configure the way you view a page so your screen shows up as if you were looking at two pages of a book? And would it then be possible to place notes as if they were at the end of each double page view you had? I mean like looking at a .pdf file, etc. Wikidea 02:23, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

On the left side column of every page, there is an option that says "Download as a PDF". Cheers! Scapler (talk) 04:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I can't see it 94.1.8.162 (talk) 16:31, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

It's under "Print/export". --Yowuza yadderhouse | meh 17:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

The Print/export section and the "Download as a PDF" option do not show up in the regular, default layout of Wikipedia. You need to use the Beta version (and have an account) to activate the newer layout and see those features. -- tariqabjotu 21:44, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

I see it, and I'm not on Beta. But yes, is does require being signed in to an account. Modest Genius ^talk 22:33, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Scapler, I don't think the download-as-pdf thing gives you the option of having footnotes, instead of endnotes. Do you know how to do that? Wikidea 14:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean adding footnotes to the PDF? A.nnotate and some of the more feature-complete PDF editors can do that. If you mean having the Wikipedia article references formatted as footnotes rather than listed at the end, I don't think that's possible due to the way the referencing system works. You could try asking at Help:Books/Feedback, or WP:T might have an idea of other ways to do this. Modest Genius ^talk 18:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I mean a way to have the notes displayed on each page as footnotes (rather than being collected as end notes at the end). Can't be that hard can it? Thanks very much for your suggestions. I've asked at the helpdesk too. I'm not sure if A.nnotate will help - surely we should be able to do it through Wiki? Wikidea 19:08, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm certain the subject has been brought up numerous times before, but I'd like to offer my support for a Collaboration of the Day link or feature on the Main Page. As mentioned here (by me), which in turn received a response linking to several other requests for a similar interactive feature, I am wondering if there are any additional thoughts or concerns relating to this idea. Much like the DYK feature, articles could be nominated for a daily collaboration in which registered users could work together to improve an article within a short period of time. I see the point made that the Main Page is for readers, as opposed to editors, but I think even a simple link or small box would allow readers AND editors access to the article to see just how collaborative, interactive, and efficient Wikipedia can be. Each day, readers and editors could see an article jump from Stub class to a much high class within 24 hours. Any thoughts, ideas, or concerns? --Another Believer _(Talk) 07:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Discussed here. See also Wikipedia talk:Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive, which describes why that similar idea was abandoned. It was linked from Wikipedia:Community portal, not the Main Page. Art LaPella (talk) 15:21, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

I think the spirit of this proposal is good. I know it has been previously discussed to death as it relates to individual articles. Has anyone ever proposed a daily task-oriented drive? E.g. today is add references to unreffed BLPs day. We'll have a how-to, and a category of pages needing references. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:47, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

That's still not going to do anything about the readers not editors objection Nil Einne (talk) 19:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I know, I just think that objection is BS. I think Wikipedia needs to step up recruitment, and there are no easily visible ways for interested readers to get involved in tasks well-suited for newbies. Calliopejen1 (talk) 21:48, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

While you're welcome to your opinions, it's clear there's a large majority who don't agree with them. And so it remains unclear to me why or how this proposal of your is going to be any different from previous proposals. In fact, the 'unrefed BLPs' likely isn't even a task well suited to newbies. If you genuinelly believe there's some way to change minds, I'm not sure just coming up with another random proposal is going to help any since the strength of the proposal was never a big factor. Instead concentrate on convincing people there's merit to change the very long standing consensus and start strongly imploring readers to become editors by adding a section 99.9% of readers are still not going to care about or find useful. Nil Einne (talk) 12:49, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

The first season of Smallville? get real! what waste of a stupid show and this is second fiction in 2 day! Oh + Brooklyn's greatest arcitect Frank Freeman too that breaks one of wikipedia' core rules of neurality and he is at the top so everybody can see that too for sure also have MAJOR problem with 1947 – Civil disorder in Taiwan was brutally suppressed by the Chinese Nationalist military in the 228 Incident. brutally suppressed is breaking the rule again and is OBVIOUSLY anti-china. if wikipedia is going to change its rules and have more fiction and be anti and pro whatever its wants can it just say this in its rules and not be so BLATANTLY hypocriticle all over its own "Main Page"? also want to know if the roach paralyzed and kidnapped by the female emerald cockroach wasp is female or male itself if nobody is too buzy choking on that and i have no more time now will check later for ansears but this not my computer and someone else wants it and I'm being told to go to bed now anyway so bye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.222.102 (talk) 00:42, 28 February 2010 (UTC) p.s. i love wikipedia but really gotta make less mistakes.

Full stops are your friends. Just reading that block of text gives me a headache. GeeJo ^(t)⁄_(c) • 01:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Interesting how only the IP addresses make posts like these.--WaltCip (talk) 14:45, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Remember, though, that a registered user can log out and make such a comment, such as not to blemish his or her name. 79.67.246.166 (talk) 15:49, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

A registered user would also do well to assume good faith and remember that not every IP is a vandal. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 19:24, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Just as one would assume good faith in not presuming that I assumed that every IP was a vandal.--WaltCip (talk) 03:38, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Then perhaps we should simply avoid presenting suppositions as fact (see: "only the IP adresses" (emphasis mine)). If this is in fact a fact and not a supposition, perhaps you should present the supporting data as well, so as to avoid these unfortunate misunderstandings. 67.252.127.81 (talk) 06:17, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Rather a long and meandering comment for a registered user - and most people accept that there is occasional 'clumping' of topics - whether country/continent specific, 'things that annoy Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells and relatives thereof, fiction etc etc. 'Brutally suppressed" can be a neutral term - defining a level of state-sanctioned/police/military activity against a particular popluation (eg the Hungarian Uprising). Jackiespeel (talk) 15:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, let's see (in response to the original post). I am assuming you are talking about the placing of the article on the Smallville season on the main page. The Featured Article is not specifically for articles of especially important things - indeed, that would make it incredibly complicated as many different things are important to different people - but is a showcase of articles that have become, through a process that you can look up, Featured as very well written and designed articles. Some people spent the time and looked up the resources, etc. to make that article a very clear and informative description of its material. So, this is no mistake. It simply happens to be a well made article that deserves to be represented in such a way. Sure, things could perhaps be better spread out at times, but with all the various articles put in the place, it becomes difficult to fairly space everything out to everyone's satisfaction. If you would like certain things to be better represented, go help articles about those topics be balanced, informative, and well written. There are even groups that focus on specific topics which might be able to help you.

On Frank Freeman, perhaps the wording is somewhat vague and unscientific. I would guess that it is intended to mean "Brooklyn's greatest architect, according to a specific group" (perhaps some notable news source, or an expert on the topic), and is worded that way because my more elaborate way is long and boring sounding (indeed, I now see that in the article it now states that he "has been called "Brooklyn's greatest architect"" - the fact that he has been called this is notable and factual). If this is incorrect - you know that the sources are poorly chosen or used, and perhaps he was never called that - please go and help out that article and the subsequent information noted from it on places like the Main Page. On "brutally suppressed" - descriptions like that are often used as a technical term. The suppressors used force in great quantities - whether for good or ill reasons - and probably came off as overusing force (whether they did indeed overuse it or not, for good reasons or bad). The method used can be factually noted as generally more dependent on force tactics than many other options, and "brutally suppressed" gets the message across in a more clear and simple way than writing ourselves into contortions trying to define the point in certain different ways. As for the wasp and roach, I do not know. I would assume that in general the species has no preference (unless perhaps there is some necessity for certain biological capabilities in the paralyzed roach).--76.195.210.125 (talk) 00:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that Manmohan Singh becoming the first Indian Prime minister to visit Saudi Arabia since 1982 is important enough to make the headlines. It should be included on the Indian main page. The picture of Manmohan Singh should also be removed. RG104 (talk) 22:50, March 1, 2010 (UTC) —Preceding undated comment added 22:52, 1 March 2010 (UTC).

I agree that it would be helpful to know the significance of this event. It's kind of a so what? situation. For example, I'm sure the President of Dominica hasn't visited...Moldova since ever. Clarification would help. BobAmnertiopsis∴_ChatMe! 23:32, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

The section in the bold article India – Saudi Arabia relations should clear this up for most people but here is some context. Apart from 1982 to 2010 being a considerable length of time, this is only the third time in history that the Indian Prime Minister has visited Saudi Arabia (the previous time was 1955). The following is from one of those who commented at the nomination:

It is also clear from reading the article now that it has happened that the visit was not particularly normal, several agreements were signed, an honorary doctorate was given, a female diplomat was permitted to be present without wearing the abaya or the hijab, and so on. This combination means this visit was notable enough in my opinion and the opinions of others (nobody actually opposed). --candle•wicke 15:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Then you should mention some of the treaties, agreements, etc. that were made there so that people can know how important this visit really was. Right now, it does sound like a So what? situation, like BobAmnertiopsis said. RG104 (talk) 23:59, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

There is limited space. Reading the bold article should clarify the importance of most things posted on ITN. --candle•wicke 15:53, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

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