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@SounderBruce: You reverted my application of Category:Central Waterfront, Seattle to Victor Steinbrueck Park. Should the park be removed from this template, then? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:19, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

I think it'd be best to remove it, as it really isn't a waterfront park. It takes about a half-mile to walk or drive to the nearest part of the waterfront from the park. SounderBruce 03:32, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@SounderBruce This Friends of Waterfront Seattle map includes PPM and VS Park. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:49, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Seattle Parks considers it to be downtown. Friends of the Waterfront is more of a promotional group and does not have any real authority on the subject. SounderBruce 03:56, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@SounderBruce Are you saying that because of the text "Downtown parks special events", or am I overlooking something else? I thought Central Waterfront was part of Downtown, along with Belltown, C-ID, and First Hill. Perhaps I'm misinformed. I agree VS Park is Downtown, but Central Waterfront seems more difficult to determine. Would Seattle Parks categorize Central Waterfront sites separately? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Something more substantial: the 2014 Parks Legacy Plan lists Steinbrueck as an example of a downtown park (p. 98). Downtown bleeds into the waterfront but they are separate areas of Greater Downtown in my mind; roughly west of Western Avenue is where I'd put the boundary. SounderBruce 04:13, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@SounderBruce Isn't VS Park west of Western Ave? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 04:22, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

My mental map is skewed a bit. In my personal view, the waterfront boundary follows the alley west of Western Avenue from Columbia to roughly Pike, then shifts over to follow the railroad as it leaves the Great Northern Tunnel. The railroad forms a real navigational challenge that does block the waterfront off from the rest of downtown and Belltown now that the viaduct is gone. SounderBruce 04:31, 8 November 2022 (UTC)